Podcast
Below the Surface
How the best people leaders build high-performing teams

Lattice CEO: Build for the Success of People First
Sarah Franklin, CEO of Lattice, on why AI transformation is really a people transformation — evidence-based reviews, AI coaching for managers, and why cutting headcount is a strategic error.

Superhuman CPO: To change how people work, change what you reward
Superhuman Chief People Officer Kenny Mendes on scrapping a failed RTO mandate for opt-in office plans, letting employees trade salary for equity, and why managers no longer set compensation.

How Notion Rebuilt HR from First Principles
Notion Chief People Officer Katy Shields on throwing out the people playbook, retiring the annual engagement survey, and rebuilding the function from a blank page.

Greenhouse’s Daniel Chait: Hiring Is Broken and Nobody’s Winning
Greenhouse CEO Daniel Chait on the hiring doom loop, why AI layered on an already chaotic process makes things worse, and what the best companies do differently.

WRITER's Chief People Officer: Companies Aren't Failing at AI, They're Failing at Change
WRITER Chief People Officer Jevan Soo Lenox on why AI amplifies whatever your organization already is, why employees quietly sabotage AI, and why the winners choose growth over efficiency.

How Linear Built a Winning Culture: Focus on Impact, not Hours
Linear COO Cristina Cordova on rejecting 996 culture, treating headcount as a deliberate choice, paid work trials, collapsible teams, and why focus beats raw output.

Cursor’s Hiring Secret: Treat Every Role Like an Executive Search
Cursor’s Head of Talent Adam Ward on why most companies hire backwards, how to build talent density, and treating every role like an executive search.

Below the Surface: A podcast for HR and people leaders (Trailer)
The job of the people team is being rewritten in real-time. We created Below the Surface to learn how category-defining companies are navigating people, talent, and culture right now.
